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DerryWells wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 11:41 pm He is a rovers fan his whole life. Yes he's a derry local but the club means nothing to him.
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DerryWells wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 11:41 pm He is a rovers fan his whole life. Yes he's a derry local but the club means nothing to him.
His Da is a Rovers fan...
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Decent performance 2 terrible goals to concede. Maher should do better with the first but Noonan is off side and Cann is admiring the shot.

2nd goal Ben has switched off AGAIN. His concentration levels for a defender are so so poor..

On a side note I cannot fathom how Ferguson has played at such a high level. He is so poor, slow and disinterested.
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Thought Danny Mullen was fouled in build up to their ist goal. Poor officiating again.
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brandyball wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 4:26 pm Thought Danny Mullen was fouled in build up to their ist goal. Poor officiating again.
He was... we switched off awaiting the free kick to be given and then Rovers score... Its an injustice
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Greengo wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 4:40 pm
brandyball wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 4:26 pm Thought Danny Mullen was fouled in build up to their ist goal. Poor officiating again.
He was... we switched off awaiting the free kick to be given and then Rovers score... Its an injustice
Don't think linesman on Southend side raised his flag once for a foul against us.
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We simply were second best. Rovers could move up a gear at will and still have some in reserve. Maher needs a rest. He and 2 defenders stood and watched McEniffs goal. The most we'll get this year is Europe.
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Pretty decent performance overall.

Apart from Liam Boyce of course. Going to go down as the most expensive flop in the clubs history.
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They scored a decent winner. Our left back was sleeping when that ball was played inside him. Yrs, the celebrations were OTT but who cares? He scored and won the match so he should be celebrating. Would we be calm and respectful if we scored at the death? Course not. It’s our own shortcomings that we should focus on not some lad that’s just silenced 5k.
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marcoloco wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:10 pm They scored a decent winner. Our left back was sleeping when that ball was played inside him. Yrs, the celebrations were OTT but who cares? He scored and won the match so he should be celebrating. Would we be calm and respectful if we scored at the death? Course not. It’s our own shortcomings that we should focus on not some lad that’s just silenced 5k.
Have you never seen a player score against his forme club and he shows respect by not celebrating?
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brandyball wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 3:44 pm
marcoloco wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:10 pm They scored a decent winner. Our left back was sleeping when that ball was played inside him. Yrs, the celebrations were OTT but who cares? He scored and won the match so he should be celebrating. Would we be calm and respectful if we scored at the death? Course not. It’s our own shortcomings that we should focus on not some lad that’s just silenced 5k.
Have you never seen a player score against his forme club and he shows respect by not celebrating?
Have you ever seen a player get stick from the fans of his former club when he comes on the pitch, only to then rub it up them when he scores? It's almost like footballers are just humans some times.

Can't believe the amount of crying done about McEniff to be honest. Some thin skins around our suppoort base.
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stevebradley wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 4:15 pm
brandyball wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 3:44 pm
marcoloco wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:10 pm They scored a decent winner. Our left back was sleeping when that ball was played inside him. Yrs, the celebrations were OTT but who cares? He scored and won the match so he should be celebrating. Would we be calm and respectful if we scored at the death? Course not. It’s our own shortcomings that we should focus on not some lad that’s just silenced 5k.
Have you never seen a player score against his forme club and he shows respect by not celebrating?
Have you ever seen a player get stick from the fans of his former club when he comes on the pitch, only to then rub it up them when he scores? It's almost like footballers are just humans some times.

Can't believe the amount of crying done about McEniff to be honest. Some thin skins around our suppoort base.
OTT and why he was booked.
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stevebradley wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 4:15 pm
brandyball wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 3:44 pm
marcoloco wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:10 pm They scored a decent winner. Our left back was sleeping when that ball was played inside him. Yrs, the celebrations were OTT but who cares? He scored and won the match so he should be celebrating. Would we be calm and respectful if we scored at the death? Course not. It’s our own shortcomings that we should focus on not some lad that’s just silenced 5k.
Have you never seen a player score against his forme club and he shows respect by not celebrating?
Have you ever seen a player get stick from the fans of his former club when he comes on the pitch, only to then rub it up them when he scores? It's almost like footballers are just humans some times.

Can't believe the amount of crying done about McEniff to be honest. Some thin skins around our suppoort base.
I don't think it's crying nor a thin skin and to suggest it is is condescending. I'm not sure you'd get this, but football is an emotional game and telling fans again how they should react or act is pathetic.
I don't care about players celebrating against former clubs, in fact I'd rather they did. As you rightly point out, they are human. But this wasn't just a case of just celebrating. I've been going to the Brandywell since 1985 and there's not much opposition managers or players do to annoy me these days, but McEneff really did the other night. It was the manner and the absolute bitterness from man raised in Derry, played more times for Derry than any other team he's played for. I don't know why it triggered me cos I'd no time for him when he played for us. Celebrate, yes. Take a bit of stick, to be expected (although I heard fuck all from where I was, some didn't even realise he was on the pitch). A big time Charlie if there ever was one, a completely misplaced confidence in his abilities. The fact that he was booked for it from that referee says it all.

And another thing, those boys who are now in the new stand are providing an unbelievable atmosphere at the minute. Im sure there will be hand wringing about them throwing stuff on the pitch to McEneff (and others tbf) when he was rubbing their noses in it. To flip the narrative, they're only human too...In fact they're very young on their life journey and I don't blame them for getting wound up. We can't expect them to be emotionless robots and stand and watch and clap as some tramp who celebrates in front of them like he's won the champions league with another team.
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Wonder if his mammy will be in the paper crying for him again.
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Wait a minute … are we saying it’s ok to sing IRA songs and throw objects at opposition players all because a minority can sing songs, and make a bit of noise?

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Marty wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:06 pm Pretty decent performance overall.

Apart from Liam Boyce of course. Going to go down as the most expensive flop in the clubs history.
Don't think this is fair. Theres been some games this year he has been very good. And others not so good. Rovers game did not suit him from a pressing point. His link up play ain't bad. But needs somebody with legs playing off him. Duffy looks like he needs a rest/dropped. But dunno who replaces him. Thomas may not have legs either for 90mins
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brandyball wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 3:44 pm
marcoloco wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:10 pm They scored a decent winner. Our left back was sleeping when that ball was played inside him. Yrs, the celebrations were OTT but who cares? He scored and won the match so he should be celebrating. Would we be calm and respectful if we scored at the death? Course not. It’s our own shortcomings that we should focus on not some lad that’s just silenced 5k.
Have you never seen a player score against his forme club and he shows respect by not celebrating?
I have. But I’ve also witnessed players like Adybeyor run the length of the pitch to celebrate in front of away fans. I think it’s a bit unfair - I said it was OTT but he just so happened to score at the packed end of the ground full of our fans. Had it been at the other end I’m sure he’d have been over with his own fans. Just think some ppl making a big deal out of something that’s not that big of a deal.
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marcoloco wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 10:28 pm
brandyball wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 3:44 pm
marcoloco wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:10 pm They scored a decent winner. Our left back was sleeping when that ball was played inside him. Yrs, the celebrations were OTT but who cares? He scored and won the match so he should be celebrating. Would we be calm and respectful if we scored at the death? Course not. It’s our own shortcomings that we should focus on not some lad that’s just silenced 5k.
Have you never seen a player score against his forme club and he shows respect by not celebrating?
I have. But I’ve also witnessed players like Adybeyor run the length of the pitch to celebrate in front of away fans. I think it’s a bit unfair - I said it was OTT but he just so happened to score at the packed end of the ground full of our fans. Had it been at the other end I’m sure he’d have been over with his own fans. Just think some ppl making a big deal out of something that’s not that big of a deal.
You may think it's not a big deal, others may think it's Incitement, hence the booking.
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marcoloco wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 10:28 pm
brandyball wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 3:44 pm
marcoloco wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:10 pm They scored a decent winner. Our left back was sleeping when that ball was played inside him. Yrs, the celebrations were OTT but who cares? He scored and won the match so he should be celebrating. Would we be calm and respectful if we scored at the death? Course not. It’s our own shortcomings that we should focus on not some lad that’s just silenced 5k.
Have you never seen a player score against his forme club and he shows respect by not celebrating?
I have. But I’ve also witnessed players like Adybeyor run the length of the pitch to celebrate in front of away fans. I think it’s a bit unfair - I said it was OTT but he just so happened to score at the packed end of the ground full of our fans. Had it been at the other end I’m sure he’d have been over with his own fans. Just think some ppl making a big deal out of something that’s not that big of a deal.
Its not the celebration that has got people's backs up it's the manor of it. Cupping his ears & running half the length of the pitch & then fist pumping towards the Southend stand. I'm not against him celebrating a winning goal but inciting the crowd is not the way to do it especially when there are many in the crowd that have shown him respect on & off the pitch since he left for Rovers
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brandyball wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 10:32 pm
marcoloco wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 10:28 pm
brandyball wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 3:44 pm

Have you never seen a player score against his forme club and he shows respect by not celebrating?
I have. But I’ve also witnessed players like Adybeyor run the length of the pitch to celebrate in front of away fans. I think it’s a bit unfair - I said it was OTT but he just so happened to score at the packed end of the ground full of our fans. Had it been at the other end I’m sure he’d have been over with his own fans. Just think some ppl making a big deal out of something that’s not that big of a deal.
You may think it's not a big deal, others may think it's Incitement, hence the booking.
The booking was warranted. It's all debatable however - when does a last minute winning goal celebration cross the line from being acceptable to unacceptable? I suspect the reaction from some would be the same even if it wasn't a booking offence. No one likes losing in the last minute. And no one likes taking abuse either... I personally think the whole thing is a storm in a teacup. An easy distraction from the result.
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