PauliAlonso wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:44 pm
IfYouTolerateThis wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:47 pm
PauliAlonso wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:43 pm
Not booing them off the pitch might be a start. I don't want to start a whole thing here, but the fans' reaction to our drop in form at the end was seen all around the country. Players know about that. The Virgin Media sports guy named that as one of his reasons at the time why we wouldn't win the title race ("the fans have turned"); the journalist who asked Tiernan Lynch what he thought of Derry having "10,000 managers". It'll be a job convincing some quality players to stay/come.
Mate it's hard to say this but you make me believe that you seek some sort of utopia, woke football.
You vehemently defended RH in light of horrific performances and now you don't believe fans should boo players when they play dire?
Any pundit here or across the water will always defend fans having their right to voice their objections to abject performances. Are you saying DCFC fans should pay their money and accept whatever is served up? Without any dissent?
Do you believe players don't accept that if they are shite, the fans shouldn't tell them that they are shite? If this is football, count me out.
I was embarrassed at what has been in the media from family members of former players and the former manager. People who had no objections to raise about fans voicing their opinions, for years, until it was their family members being made acutely aware that they were not meeting the expectations of those contributing to their wages.
There isn't ONE club, in the LOI, IL, across Europe or elsewhere that wouldn't expect fans to voice their opinions. Players get booed off for one reason and o e reason only...they have been awful.
Like I said, I don't want to pull this off topic; I replied to a comment about how we can make players feel more comfortable...this is all in the context of putting a squad together for 2025. But I'll answer your questions, as I think I have to defend myself here.
This has nothing to do with wokeness or wanting a lovey-dovey, tree-hugging experience at football games. So, relax Piers Morgan.
You vehemently defended RH in light of horrific performances...
I defended Higgins' tenure. I didn't think that the end part of one season should overwrite the success of the previous three years and I didn't think it should be a sackable offence.
and now you don't believe fans should boo players when they play dire?
I don't think there's a benefit to it, even more so going into the last few games of a potential double. I think at half-time against Sligo, if the crowd had stood, applauded and cheered the players into the tunnel, it would have had a better effect..not only on the second half but going into the next games too. Would you rather go into the break knowing that you have 3000+ people behind you, willing you on, or the knowledge that those people think you're shite and you can't turn this around?
Do you believe players don't accept that if they are shite, the fans shouldn't tell them that they are shite?
Do you think the players don't know that already? That any of them thought "Hey, the fans are booing, are we playing badly tonight, I thought we were great, no?". Do you think that's not the first thing the manager and Hegarty will tell them in the dressing room? Players need a kick up the hole from time to time and the coaches should give it. I think players will respond better knowing that they have the support and belief of the fans. Once the fans turn like ours did, the signal they're sending to the players is that it's done, we're not winning this. So if the fans don't believe, why should the players? Let the fans boo, but when it's done and dusted, not when we're still in with a chance. You just have to look at Patching's reaction in Dundalk, and how quick out the door Fats and Shane were, to see what they thought of it all.
...and I think all that will have a bearing on who stays, who goes and who comes in. But I hope I'm wrong.